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WHO WILL WIN BURMAC!?

MacISAAC

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Burke

25%

25%

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Post Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:37 pm   Reply with quote           Send private message    



What dynasty?

Mac lost the time I went, so I think the word "dynasty" is a little bit of a stretch.



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Dear Blue,

4-3

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Yeah blue really looks like a tool now doesnt he? and 75% thats a lot of wrong people



 
 
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Some of you certainly look like tools, no arguing that.



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haha, yea, foot in mouth, oh well, it was an intence game, im still devastated but when burke wins 3 years in a row, come see me then.

heres a few stats for all of u:

2009 Game will be Wednesday February 4 at the Antigonish Arena
2008 Burke
2007 MacIsaac
2006 MacIsaac
2005 MacIsaac
2004 Burke
2003 Burke
2002 MacIsaac
2001 MacIsaac
2000 Burke
1999 MacIsaac
1998 Burke
1997 Burke
1996 MacIsaac
1995 MacIsaac
1994 MacIsaac
1993 MacIsaac
1992 Burke
1991 MacIsaac
1990 MacIsaac
1989 Burke
1988 MacIsaac
1987 MacIsaac
1986 MacIsaac
1985 MacIsaac
1984 Burke
1983 Burke
1982 MacIsaac
1981 Burke
1980 MacIsaac
1979 Burke

haha, 18 out of 30, not too shabby at all.. its just dissapointing that we havent won 5 years in a row

also, when did i say beating in my first post?. i said we beat them 5-3.. which is a solid difference. if i were going to bring up the word beating, i would have mentioned our 6-2 victory.



 
 
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Blue wrote:
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I cant wait to see another beating on Burke again..


That's where you said beating.

Moral of the story is: who gives a flying fuck? I don't understand the attachment to a place of residence. Your placement in residence was done arbitrarily, at random and has no correlation with anything. To boot, there has been limited amount of time for any sort of legitimate hatred to have been built up. When one thinks of great rivalries, let's say, between two countries, like Poland and Germany, many (arguably) more legitimate factors are involved: such as ethnicity, years of war, attempts at ethnic cleansing, fighting over borders, cultural differences, language differences, etc. Whoopie, a random bunch of university students living in one building beat another random bunch of students in another, who, all told, are pretty much identical to each other.



 
 
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I chose to be in MacNeil.

Poor MMM... did you live in the mount or off campus?

Living in a traditional style residence in close quarters with someone forms close bonds either forcefully, gradually, or instantly it happens. These friends form a close circle and are taught that their residence is the best and the other residences are garbage.

It's team spirit and fun factor into it. A game of rivalries that has been going on for 30+ years tends to pass down.

You don't choose what country your born into and most people would not even care if they hated the other country unless they are told so by older generations through stereotypes and stories of old.

It's nearly the exact same thing just over a longer period of time. There is nothing wrong with a little rivalry and fun! I'm sorry you're so cynical and bitter about the whole ordeal, but if you look at it it's the exact same as you described with other countries just on a smaller scale. Fights break out, harsh words are traded back and forth. Presidents, vice presidents, and upperclassmen (Presidents, vice presidents, and politicians if you will) encourage their house mates to do the same as they ahve been taught by the people before them.

Your argument appears extremely flawed and problematic.

P.S. I brought my average up %15.2 in 3 weeks and was accepted into honors. The idea of becoming a history professor doesn't seem too ridiculous now. Just wanted to update you on the progress.



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I thought you were banned...



 
 
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Dude.. its tradition.. take it easy.. u think I don't have friends in burke, its all fun and games, chill

Also, thanks KALK, couldn't have said it better myself.. agreed
And congrats on the acceptance into honors



 
 
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Let's see, people from either of the involved residences may care? Obviously someone cares since the game has been a yearly tradition since 1979, but hey I don't know.
Have you ever lived in residence MichaelMichaelMotorcycle? Or have you ever become attached to any place you lived or where you grew up? You can be randomly born and raised anywhere’s in the world and chances are if you have the abilities to feel at all, you are going to become attached to some degree to this area. It makes no differences as to how random your placement is into the residence is, you live there from anywhere’s to eight to sixteen months, and unless you are a complete loner who does not associate with anyone, you are bound to become attached to the residence, and the people in and connected to it.
Also, there is enough time to develop some sort of attachment to the people, thus there would be enough time to develop hatred, not that it is actually pure hatred, it's called rivalry.
And where does a rivalry between countries such as Poland and Germany come into play on this? This is a hockey/house rivalry; it can hardly be compared to such rivalries as Poland and Germany, or any other country for the matter. This is simply about hockey and the usual dorm rivalries, thank god it’s not about cultural differences, language differences, ethnicity, etc. As petty as it may seem, it makes up much of one’s university experience, go to any university around the world and you will find something similar. If you’re going to pull some sort of 'Great Rivalries' into this, use a one that’s slightly closer in scale, such as St. FX hockey and SMU hockey, or even the Leafs and the Habs.

And on a side note, I would like to congratulate Burke on the victory; both teams played hard and gave it their all. For the record, I am a Mac Alumni.



 
 
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wow, i just don't have to say anything anymore.. a lot of intelligent folks out there.



 
 
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I think that if I had ever lived in a traditional residence, I would have hated the people in my own more than the people in my rival residence. At least I wouldn't have had to deal with people from the other residence playing shitty music and yelling stupid things and throwing up in the stairwells, and so on.



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Valley Blonde wrote:
I thought you were banned...


I was, 2 weeks dear. Unfortuantely [a] biased administrator(s) saw to it. But that is all in the past and please, negative comments like that are trolling. That my dear is clause to be banned. First post back and that comment surfaces? Please read all guidelines and regulations before posting.

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Post script: Caught this nifty piece of info in the rules and regulations in regards to trolling:
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Furthermore I was banned for spamming. Dear Administrator(s): please read the rules and regulations carefully for within the 16 points made the word spam does not pop up, nor does it follow with any banning.

No such warning in my inbox. Zeitgeist 2 is in the works here.

I apologize to anyone who likes my posts, no matter how crude, annoying, self-inflating, egotistical, nonsensical, bloated, or full of loaded language they may be.



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And I thought you were gone because you were studying. I've lost all faith in humanity, Cock. What to do?

Edit: but seriously, if two weeks sans X-talk means your average jumps by 15 points, and the point system is based on 100 and 15 does not fit therein, should we chide the Japanese for poking long things into minkes?



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Oh I'm sorry, which part of my post was negative? All I did was make a statement, there was nothing negative about it. If you took it that way, that's not my fault.



 
 
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Genghis Khanada wrote:
And I thought you were gone because you were studying. I've lost all faith in humanity, Cock. What to do?

Edit: but seriously, if two weeks sans X-talk means your average jumps by 15 points, and the point system is based on 100 and 15 does not fit therein, should we chide the Japanese for poking long things into minkes?


I did this 3 weeks before exams, not while i was in hiatus. Genghis, I drink as much, if not more, as the perpetually inebriated frosh brought into the school teary-eyed and full of ubiquitous confusion.

I do no understand the minkes joke, but I can understand it is satirical none-the-less. Sorry, I've been away from your sentences for far too long hahahaha. I missed you <3.

Valley Blonde: sarcasm detected, and on grounds of unsubstantiated dismissal I am on high alert. I apologize. Accept this heart in apology, or dismiss and destroy it.

<3.

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Kalk wrote:


Living in a traditional style residence in close quarters with someone forms close bonds either forcefully, gradually, or instantly it happens. These friends form a close circle and are taught that their residence is the best and the other residences are garbage.


I also did. Unlike you however, I was smart enough to see the BS for what it was. If you can't, then, well, I guess St. FX needs to up its' standards.

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You don't choose what country your born into and most people would not even care if they hated the other country unless they are told so by older generations through stereotypes and stories of old.


If you read what I said, I actually dismissed the idea of unbridled patriotism off-hand. However, what I also said was that if anything would warrant such a thing it would based on genetics and an actual history of war and turmoil.

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It's nearly the exact same thing just over a longer period of time.


No.


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There is nothing wrong with a little rivalry and fun!


Yup I agree. There's nothing wrong with a little light-hearted fun and getting bragging rights, but some of the attitudes of people involved in this particular "rivalry" are that of elementary school children.



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P.S. I brought my average up %15.2 in 3 weeks and was accepted into honors. The idea of becoming a history professor doesn't seem too ridiculous now. Just wanted to update you on the progress.


I shouldn't, but I will anyway: I never said anything about marks because they are irrelevant. You'll have no trouble getting into grad school regardless of that 15.2% because of the nature of the beast. It's getting to the next level beyond that that is difficult. I believe that less than 20% of Arts PhDs end up in some form of academia. Feel free to look it up yourself.

(PS If you don't want me to be a dick then don't egg me on).



 
 
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Shakotko wrote:

It makes no differences as to how random your placement is into the residence is, you live there from anywhere’s to eight to sixteen months, and unless you are a person who can form bonds and attachments via their own will , you are bound to become attached to the residence, and the people in and connected to it.


Wow, 8 months man. How can you argue with that.



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Also, there is enough time to develop some sort of attachment to the people, thus there would be enough time to develop hatred, not that it is actually pure hatred, it's called rivalry.


Your problem here is that these 2 things have nothing to do with each other. Developing attachment with people (forced or natural) somehow develops into hating a group of people that are more or less the equivalent to the bunch of inbreds in your place of residence? I mean, if only there was some actual difference between the members of the houses, then I might be into it. But there isn't.


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If you’re going to pull some sort of 'Great Rivalries' into this, use a one that’s slightly closer in scale, such as St. FX hockey and SMU hockey, or even the Leafs and the Habs.


Actually, these are poor examples because these rivalries no longer actually exist. Why? Because with all the turnover from year-to-year, the time to develop a legitimate rivalry is not there as it used to be in the original six era, for example.

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And on a side note, I would like to congratulate Burke on the victory; both teams played hard and gave it their all. For the record, I am a Mac Alumni.


Good. Why can't it just be about a hockey game?



 
 
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A. If you also applied to a specific residence then why would you state that,
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I also did. Unlike you however, I was smart enough to see the BS for what it was. If you can't, then, well, I guess St. FX needs to up its' standards.


B. No... you didn't. If you did you wouldn't mind having a little light hearted fun and participating in some of the rivalry festivities (you may have or not, but you seem so against them it's easy to misinterpret).

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if anything would warrant such a thing it would based on genetics and an actual history of war and turmoil.


Hahaha. I actually laughed out loud. You're right, people are born to hate each other. Two people born near each other and just hanging out automatically want to kill each other because of skin colour, language, wars, and etc. that they have no idea about. I'd go into more detail, but it's like arguing with an aggravated infant. Hate isn't born in people. It's gained over time through experience. Please don't sit there and tell me that an older generation has NO influence on the younger generations when it comes to international relations.

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No.


Yes.

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some of the attitudes of people involved in this particular "rivalry" are that of elementary school children.


I never said they weren't. I completely agree that some people get out of control and become complete idiots. It most definitely does happen, but with the more intense the rivalry, the better the bragging rights. Without bragging rights it would just be,

"We have won."
"Yes, Thomas, we have. Is that not spectacular?"
"Yes, it is great news."

un-bridled enthusiasm.

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PS If you don't want me to be a dick then don't egg me on).


I never said you were a dick, that would violate sections 1 and 2 of the X-Talk Rules and Regulations. Please familiarize yourself with said rules and regulations before you cross the line.

Thank you,

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On a side note, they should be updated.



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burke house has no business winning this game or even making it close, the way the game is set up puts burke at a disadvantage simply with the numbers... 5-3 squeaker win should be embarassing enough let alone actually losing to a team playing 2 lines all night. If the guys in mac had any pride theyd be winning 6-2 every year like they should.

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