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I don't have an opinion |
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No, I'm friends with the SU Executives |
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Senther
Xtalk Drifter  Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 2296 Location: The Deadlights    votes: 42 View user's profile |
Read the article about MacGillivray. I'll wait. http://stfxdecides2008.blogspot.com/ The closing paragraph wrote: This candidates platform focuses on transparency and accessibility to union staff and services and urges the use of the union website to keep students up-to date. Interestingly, as a union councilor, MacGillivary never pushed these ideas at the council table. That is 100% ass. I don't know (or give a fuck) who MacGillivary is, but he should have a right to non-biased reporting from the institution he is campaigning for. I didn't want to say anything before, because I'm a forgiving person. (Lie: I'm actually just unmotivated). But the reason I didn't press my complaints about the Xaverian weekly is because a few guys in the know (much more so than I, anyways) told me it wasn't worth my time, because the people in charge had made up their minds long before they heard from me. That actually dropped my opinion of the SU, believe it or not, because although I'd always assumed most of the executives were wanna-be politicians who campaigned for their own egos (as opposed to public service), I DID think those same egos forced some constraints on them. Much like the way I trust Wikipedia (when it comes to subjects without a point of view) because I have faith in the anal nature of nerds (ie: if something was wrong, the pleasure another nerd would get from correcting it would make them fix it). This is more of the same. I think the candidates for next year should press for the appointment of an Ombudsman. Because you guys fucking need one. _________________ To avoid complications, she never kept the same address In conversation, she spoke just like a baroness |
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Troublemaker
Xtalk Artist in Residence  Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 1936 Location: Your Mom's House  votes: 15 View user's profile |
I believe the Chair of Council is supposed to be in charge of ensuring a fair campaign, no? _________________ The village has to take responsibility for its idiot. |
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Troublemaker wrote: I believe the Chair of Council is supposed to be in charge of ensuring a fair campaign, no?
I would argue that it would be the returning officers... |
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Troublemaker
Xtalk Artist in Residence Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 1936 Location: Your Mom's House votes: 15 View user's profile |
You may be right. But it would seem all of the things coming from the Union should have to go through their office first, no? I never ran for anything so my memory is hazy, admittedly. _________________ The village has to take responsibility for its idiot. |
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Not necessarily. This page doesn't go through the ROs, because it's not election material put out by any of the slates themselves. |
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when has an election ever been fair I ask you??? _________________ Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. |
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Troublemaker
Xtalk Artist in Residence Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 1936 Location: Your Mom's House votes: 15 View user's profile |
I'ma sit back and just watch now. I'm old hat and can accept it...i think. 
_________________ The village has to take responsibility for its idiot. |
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Senther
Xtalk Drifter Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 2296 Location: The Deadlights votes: 42 View user's profile |
J-Mae wrote: Problem-perpetuating-premise
_________________ To avoid complications, she never kept the same address In conversation, she spoke just like a baroness |
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1. Senther's comment about Wikipedia made me giggle. 2. Who wrote the blog? I'm assuming someone from the Communications office. |
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Senther
Xtalk Drifter Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 2296 Location: The Deadlights votes: 42 View user's profile |
Take a guess. And before the "explaination" from the Blog comments gets pasta'd here, I'm going to go ahead and say that it is also ass. _________________ To avoid complications, she never kept the same address In conversation, she spoke just like a baroness |
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As much as some people would like to claim the Students' Union is a clique and hard to get in from "the outside", I'll tell you right now the only way it is a clique is that they know each other through volunteering and working to do things around this campus. This is a little off how this thread started, but every year some people start to say that some people are being marginalized. Most of the people who run for these positions all have volunteered in different aspects of campus and THAT is why they are known to each other. I bet most never even knew or heard of each other before life at StFX. If "an outsider" runs for a position, then a whole bunch of other people feel they were screwed. This stuff isn't predestined for anyone. You either put in some time, or you probably won't be chosen. With all that said, yes, that article did have quite a quick knock on MacGillivray. Maybe if the other candidates have the same treatment it would be alright. _________________ Stupid poetic justice! |
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Senther
Xtalk Drifter Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 2296 Location: The Deadlights votes: 42 View user's profile |
Tell me, is the SU going to go around polling students to see how many of them had their opinion swayed? Because if not, how are the "critiques" ensured to be equally distributed? In any case, the XW will be taking over, so we know that the neutrality will improve. Regardless though, I think the main issue is how this speaks to an unacceptable level of unprofessional behaviour in portions of the union. _________________ To avoid complications, she never kept the same address In conversation, she spoke just like a baroness |
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True, I guess you cannot quantify each "dig" at someone to be equal. _________________ Stupid poetic justice! |
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wow, this is fantastic. Opinion and discussion about a union election! To note: I won't be writing much for this blog, we are just getting the writers up and going. Danille Webb will be following the MaGillvary campaign, she is a reporter for the weekly and Brian Cauley will be covering the Connors team. However, this blog will present important information and critique candidates where appropriate. The sentence I happened to write is not untrue and is the same level of criticism each slate will be held to. So to say it is biased I believe is a little premature. However, the Mac Gillvary team is the first to have a platform for people to view and kudo's to them. When other slates introduce their's they will be covered similarly. Keep up the discussion and keep checking the blog, I think you’ll find it fair and balanced and not in a FOX news sort of way! Take care, Neil _________________ Sarah Furey - Vice President Communications StFX Student Union su_comm@stfx.ca For Students. By Students. w w w . T h e U . c a |
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Senther
Xtalk Drifter Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 2296 Location: The Deadlights votes: 42 View user's profile |
Your copy and pasted response (as predicted) seems to suggest that you don't think this is fantastic, and aren't actually listening to the concerns of students. _________________ To avoid complications, she never kept the same address In conversation, she spoke just like a baroness |
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Senther wrote: Your copy and pasted response (as predicted) seems to suggest that you don't think this is fantastic, and aren't actually listening to the concerns of students.
My copy and paste indicates i'm not happy? How is that exactly? Anyhow, if you believe that the posts on x-talk represent how the majority of students feel, i'd have to say you're inaccurate. However, that is to be expected as well. _________________ Sarah Furey - Vice President Communications StFX Student Union su_comm@stfx.ca For Students. By Students. w w w . T h e U . c a |
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Chesty LaRue
X-Talk Pervert  Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 4166 Location: Up Yours  votes: 29 View user's profile |
FIGHT! |
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Senther, nice to see your whining hasn't stopped after all this time. I thought I'd drop in now that it's elections time again. First off, Kudos on the idea of blogs, while I don't agree with Xaverian reporters doing the blogging I like the fact that it is some people who know the issues. I would suggest perhaps having the bloggers follow each campaign with differing opinions. I think having bias opinion posted is fine, as long as it is balanced, perhaps someone more in line with the way the union is currently doing things as a blogger and more of a anti-union person covering there perspective? Having one person per campaign is a bit ridiculous. Sounds ridonculous, but that's the fun of it. Also Chair stopped being in charge of elections my year. |
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Senther
Xtalk Drifter Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 2296 Location: The Deadlights votes: 42 View user's profile |
VP Communications wrote: My copy and paste indicates i'm not happy? How is that exactly? Anyhow, if you believe that the posts on x-talk represent how the majority of students feel, i'd have to say you're inaccurate. However, that is to be expected as well. Your lack of effort indicates your shallow attention to the actual complaints. People usually don't half-ass things they find enjoyable. Why don't you ask the majority of students then? I'm sure this thread is the only place you've had complaints, right? I mean, I guess I was just inaccurate. Take care, Senther. PS: Forbes, nice to see that your lapdog position to the SU hasn't changed. _________________ To avoid complications, she never kept the same address In conversation, she spoke just like a baroness |
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Given the discussion on this matter concerning the neutrality of the Students' Union and the role's of Chair's Office, I feel the need to comment as the Chair of Council during this election campaign. This Office is in no way now and in no way will be biased or slanted in this election whatsoever. The Elections Act does state that councilors, executive, sub-executive, etc., do not have to remain neutral, yet I assure that the Chair and Returning Officers do. GIven the question of whether or not the executive should be writing on the blog, while there may be personal opinions regarding the matter, I must be honest in saying that there is nothing outright applauding or condeming such actions. Whether or not this is good or not, and whether or not there should be change or not, is not the call of this Office: we enforce the rules entrusted to us by Council. The blog is new, and with any new development will come about its good and bad, both of which can be worked with. Regarding the Returning Officers' role, there is also nothing stating that this new Council blog or anything online have to be approved through us first, and it doesn't, for a simple reason: trying to regulate online campaigning is a battle we're only now beginning to understand. Web pages do have to be made aware to us, and we can still use our discretion to levy discipline for things such as racism, slander, and what not, yet the buck stops and starts there. With the new regulations, in essence, nothing has to be regulated: campaigning is more open than ever before, putting the onus on the candidate, yet this Office now has a lot more leeway to punish those who go against the Act. The Students' Union encourages anyone to become involved in the election. It has been advertised that nomination forms are available on theu.ca, they are present on our secretary's desk, and there's already more talk on here about an election than ever before, which constitutes some of the most effective advertising mechanisms possible: word of mouth. If there is a complaint amongst the people, this is what your councilors are for, and with the new Strategic Plan, it is the hope of the entire Students' Union staff that it becomes more transparent and accessible than ever before. _________________ If I am a hero today, that is in question again tomorrow. I am never relieved of responsibility. |
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