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aspie jew stereotype wrote: The woman who was crippled by the shot is proof that vaccines aren't harmless.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc. enmand wrote: You have to be precise when talking about things like this.
I'd say accuracy is probably more useful than precision in this case, if you're interested in the correct result. 
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Jimmy Big Ears
X-talk mobster  Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 3256 Location: St. Francis Xavier University    votes: 38 View user's profile |
You know, I knew the capacity to be sensationalistic but this is a new low. You can find crackpots in any profession; what kind of moron would give credence to one doctor instead of the thousands of doctors comprising the health officials of every country? It may come as a surprise but most doctors are actually not the tools of the pharmaceutical companies. The moron who approved that segment should be fired and given work doing something more honest, like The National Inquirer. _________________ "Ah, sleek vigilant puma. Principal of the mountains." -Seymour Skinner. |
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Senther
Xtalk Drifter  Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 2296 Location: The Deadlights  votes: 42 View user's profile |
aspie jew stereotype wrote: The only reason we know a coin is a 50/50 chance is that most of the time when you flip it a bunch of times it's evenly heads and tails.
I think this statement hasn't had enough time to shine. _________________ To avoid complications, she never kept the same address In conversation, she spoke just like a baroness |
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The stats going on in here makes me feel better about the stats midterm that made me hurt today. |
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Mars wrote: aspie jew stereotype wrote: The woman who was crippled by the shot is proof that vaccines aren't harmless.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc. enmand wrote: You have to be precise when talking about things like this.
I'd say accuracy is probably more useful than precision in this case, if you're interested in the correct result. True, I suppose. You have to be accurate in your analysis, but precise in your defintions. |
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aspie jew stereotype wrote: But not impossible. And thats the whole thing, if it's possible to get sick from a vaccine, why take it? Nobody seems to acknoweldge this point
You also run the risk of dying every time you eat something. But does that prevent you from ever eating? No, you acknowledge the risk and the reality that you have to eat. The 'side-effects' of not eating greatly outweigh the potential side-effects of eating something tainted. We can think of all kinds of examples like these. That said, I think Dr. Cormier did a good job in bringing some sanity to this discussion. There is a risk in taking any vaccine (depends on the vaccine, the flu vaccines have lower risk than others) and the side-effects can be quite devastating, but the risk is incredibly low. |
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Jimmy Big Ears
X-talk mobster Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 3256 Location: St. Francis Xavier University votes: 38 View user's profile |
Senther wrote: aspie jew stereotype wrote: The only reason we know a coin is a 50/50 chance is that most of the time when you flip it a bunch of times it's evenly heads and tails. I think this statement hasn't had enough time to shine._________________ "Ah, sleek vigilant puma. Principal of the mountains." -Seymour Skinner. |
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Bucker wrote: and regarding the coin flip issues, funny that you mention it. Anyone else watch FOX Football Sunday yesterday? they had a feature where they looked at all the coin flips from last season, or the last decade (can't remember) and they determined that whatever face of the coin is 'up' in your hand before you flip it, it has a 50.5% chance of coming up. I think they also factored in a person's personal flip technique. spooky stuff.
http://comptop.stanford.edu/preprints/heads.pdf Nothing to do with raw probabilities, but still interesting stuff. Jimmy Big Ears wrote: Studying health data is its own research mini-field, and for good reason.
As someone who works in that field, I am perpetually annoyed by those who spread wholesale misinformation. I have no problem with people who choose to ignore public health issues, but I have a huge problem with people who attempt to interfere and spread lies and nonsense. Doing so does a great disservice to the general public. |
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What a wonderful day for a forced vaccination spree. I wonder how many people I'll get to stab in Nicholson tomorrow. Stab stab stab...should be fun. |
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Troy you have it? We should all have a chicken-poxesque party so we all don't need to get the vaccine. *note sarcasm, mostly to JBE* _________________ My father believed that laughter was the best medicine...I guess that's why several of us died of tuberculosis. My computer beat me at chess... I beat it at kickboxing |
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There's already many cases in town. Isn't that great, everyone gets sick, then we get the vaccine. |
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Where are they vaccinating in Antigonish out of curiousity? |
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They are starting vaccinations at St. Ninian's Place tomorrow 10-7 I think, I'm not sure what the deal is for out-of-province students though, I just know that I need to bring my NS health card. |
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losethefire wrote: They are starting vaccinations at St. Ninian's Place tomorrow 10-7 I think, I'm not sure what the deal is for out-of-province students though, I just know that I need to bring my NS health card.
That would be Thursday, 10-7. Just a reminder, too, that the University does not plan to hold a flu shot clinic, as this is being done entirely by Public Health. |
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Really? The University isn't helping with this?  Kind of an awkward stance to take imo.
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This clinic, is it just for seniors/those particularly susceptible to H1N1 or is it for anybody who shows up in general? |
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I believe it is for anyone in general, they won't turn you away but they're encouraging you to wait for a bit in order to give the high risk people first dibs. The next clinic is on the 3rd in Tracadie, then back at St. Ninian's on the 9th of Nov. |
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Here's what's in your flu shot: LIST OF VACCINE FILLERS & ADJUVENTS: …with every vaccine provided to the public in addition to the squalene…. In addition to the viral and bacterial RNA or DNA that is part of the vaccines, here are the fillers: - Aluminum hydroxide – directly linked to causing Alzheimer’s disease - Aluminum phosphate – directly linked to causing Alzheimer’s disease - Ammonium sulfate – an inorganic chemical compound used a fertilizer and “protein purifier”; known to cause kidney & liver damage, gastrointestinal dysfunctions - Amphotericin B – an “antifungal disinfectant” and anti-biotic, which damages the urinary tract, bowels, and heart functions - Animal tissues (a causal element for all the various auto-immune diseases associated with vaccination): horse blood, rabbit brain, dog kidney, monkey kidney, chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg, pig blood, Porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein (the pig protein/tissue is an additional objectionable issue for Jewish and Muslim people) - Calf (bovine) serum & fetal bovine serum (cow blood is recognized as a significant transmitter of Mad Cow Disease) - Betapropiolactone - Formaldehyde – used as “a preservative & disinfectant”, known to cause cancer, chronic bronchitis, eye irritation when exposed to the body’s immune system – Formalin - Gelatin - Glycerol - Human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue) - Hydrolyzed gelatin - Monosodium glutamate (MSG) – now known to cause cancer in humans, also linked to obesity - Neomycin (anti-biotic) - Neomycin sulfate (anti-biotic) - Phenol red indicator – a highly toxic disinfectant dye, attributed to liver, kidney, heart & respiratory damage |
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LOL! Hey, for example, your vaccine has mercury in it. The amount of mercury is less than that contained in a can of Tuna. Wonder, what have you eaten today? Food wise? I wonder if http://www.localharvest.org/blog/10524/entry/list_of_vaccine_fillers_a djuvents Local Harvest might not agree |
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