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pedal2000 wrote: Funny story here, according to the management at the KMC if I wanted to book a room to run a charity gaming event as a society it would cost me. Lots. of. Money. I have asked.
I don't just assume, I have talked to both the management of the SUB and the KMC. The Sub wants upwards of 200 dollars.  Albeit this was last year, but given the information in the Presidents pack suggested paying for the Sub again.
And no, again, according to Conference Services it will cost me money to rent the Coady building rooms or to use them for an evening. Feel free to give them a call and let me know if they tell you differently, but at the moment, what I am complaining about is what I am told directly by the people who say they're in charge of it. Go talk to someone on 4th floor because i know for a fact you can get the conference rooms if not some other room for free as a Union rep was the one that told me this information. Your choice of dates probably wont be the greatest but its free. You might have to go through the right channels to get the deal as the different parts of the one whole university love to screw each other over. Fun fact, Facilities Management charges conference services 100 bucks to plunge a toilet, and dont you dare plunge that toilet yourself. |
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Try booking through the registrar. I booked a classroom for a meeting for free as part of a student society. Since the SUB is now owned by the Union, rules on booking in that building may have changed. |
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I use Classrooms for all our regular events, what we've been looking for is something Gym-ish sized for a slightly larger event for our Annual Frags for Kids Event which has always been lackluster when spread out amongst 4-5 rooms. We'll see, I'm going to be talking to them all again, but yeah, ironically NH is one place that has been very kind to me and much <3 to all the ladies at the REgistrar's office who've helped me book rooms each week. |
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The wiseman says that the talks broke down this morning at 5:30AM. |
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Jimmy Big Ears
X-talk mobster  Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 3256 Location: St. Francis Xavier University    votes: 38 View user's profile |
I heard talks hit an impasse too. I'm not sure which side to be more irritated at: the university which is denying profs equal pay with other profs or the professors who think they are hard done by by being paid a pretty nice salary. The ones with a major legitimate complaint are the part-time lecturers, but this does not appear to be about them. _________________ "Ah, sleek vigilant puma. Principal of the mountains." -Seymour Skinner. |
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What exactly is the problem with sessional contracts at StFX? My experience is quite limited but they seem to have a pretty progressive setup for sessional and post-doc salaries compared to some other Canadian universities I know of, with experience and qualification factoring into the pay. That certainly isn't the case everywhere for sessionals/contract positions. |
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My prof, who hasn't said a word about it before today, said that we may be hearing more about a strike in the coming days. |
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Jimmy Big Ears
X-talk mobster Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 3256 Location: St. Francis Xavier University votes: 38 View user's profile |
@ Lance: whether it's better or worse, the part-time people are still paid much less than tenure-track profs. $8000 a course * 4 courses = a full pay rate of 48,000 - thousands of dollars short of even assistant professors and without promotions upcoming on top of teaching 1 or 2 courses, max. The rate might, however, be better than at some other places. _________________ "Ah, sleek vigilant puma. Principal of the mountains." -Seymour Skinner. |
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Did anybody else get that email warning us to behave? It went on and on about the criminal code, university punishments and behaving in events or activities, but it said nothing about any special occasion in particular. Fascinatingly vague, but at the same time it's obvious. |
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Jimmy Big Ears wrote: @ Lance: whether it's better or worse, the part-time people are still paid much less than tenure-track profs. $8000 a course * 4 courses = a full pay rate of 48,000 - thousands of dollars short of even assistant professors and without promotions upcoming on top of teaching 1 or 2 courses, max.
The rate might, however, be better than at some other places. It is better than some bigger schools, certainly. I have a friend who is a new PhD who has been a sessional for almost 5 years who still gets a little under $6000 per course. I would argue a sessional shouldn't get equivalent pay to a tenure track position because a) it isn't equal work in terms of actual academic obligations, and b) what incentive would there be for individuals to stay in a tenure position if they could bounce around as a sessional making the same money? Good or bad, one of the biggest factors in academic hiring is whether or not the person will be retainable long term, and the tenure system, flawed though it may be, helps that to happen. |
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TheEdge wrote: Did anybody else get that email warning us to behave?
It went on and on about the criminal code, university punishments and behaving in events or activities, but it said nothing about any special occasion in particular. Fascinatingly vague, but at the same time it's obvious. Yes Keith sent that to all the students. I think it's trying to scare people a bit for Burmac and for the upcoming CIS women's hockey maybe. _________________ My father believed that laughter was the best medicine...I guess that's why several of us died of tuberculosis. My computer beat me at chess... I beat it at kickboxing |
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No. There were cops at the KMC and apparently blood on the stairs (unconfirmed) in the KMC two-ish days ago. |
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Jimmy Big Ears
X-talk mobster Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 3256 Location: St. Francis Xavier University votes: 38 View user's profile |
I wonder if they'll let the details out. People will probably figure out sooner or later. Lance, I would argue that having more than a modest disparity is unfair especially because a) There is still pressure to publish if they want an academic job and b) They have to work another job to really survive as they don't teach enough courses; I don't really think they can bounce around. Also, people like job stability. I can't imagine that too many people would turn it down. _________________ "Ah, sleek vigilant puma. Principal of the mountains." -Seymour Skinner. |
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Jimmy Big Ears wrote: I wonder if they'll let the details out.
They sure won't. On a side note Keith Publicover is no longer the Acting Dean of Students, so he is not technically involved in Community Code violations anymore. On the other hand, his office is responsible for the CCTV network on campus. And apparently threatening emails as well. |
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Jimmy Big Ears wrote: Lance, I would argue that having more than a modest disparity is unfair especially because a) There is still pressure to publish if they want an academic job and b) They have to work another job to really survive as they don't teach enough courses; I don't really think they can bounce around. Also, people like job stability. I can't imagine that too many people would turn it down.
In general I disagree, as I know how hard to come by and sought after tenure-track positions are, but I suppose StFX is a different animal than larger, more research-intensive universities. Since they have very few grad students to abuse and much higher teaching contributions of tenured faculty, the pay for sessionals probably does have do be more competitive to keep 'em there. So yeah, I must acknowledge that your argument probably works in this case. |
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Jimmy Big Ears
X-talk mobster Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 3256 Location: St. Francis Xavier University votes: 38 View user's profile |
Thanks. I also was thinking about research; often because of how sought tenure-track positions are people must publish to be considered for them so part-time people are not really off the hook. _________________ "Ah, sleek vigilant puma. Principal of the mountains." -Seymour Skinner. |
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Russia's greatest love machine  Joined: 09 Jul 2009 Posts: 752 Location: The wrong place  votes: 6 View user's profile |
I am going to be very annoyed if I lose a semester because of a strike. |
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Jimmy Big Ears
X-talk mobster Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 3256 Location: St. Francis Xavier University votes: 38 View user's profile |
I wonder; how would one actually determine a fair agreement? On the one hand you can argue that professors deserve equal pay with other schools, on the other hand the school doesn't have much money for such an increase. They could always cut it out from other things but that too is problematic. Whatever it is, it needs to not show up as a tuition increase although that's no reason to think it won't. _________________ "Ah, sleek vigilant puma. Principal of the mountains." -Seymour Skinner. |
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It would be obsurd of them to raise tuition again. It's already one of the hgihest in the country |
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